[Carrie-in-Chicago]

Hey There Boymom2! First, BRAVO for posting your question! Since I’m a “politics drop out” I’m neither a political fan or foe of Trump. I think of him more as a magical character from a Harry Potter book… with the power to cause (incite ?) people/ organizations to reveal what they actually think, do, etc. indeed, I used to imagine him (or his folks) using twitter like s magic wand shooting out statements that “boom” cause people to react and show their unseen motivations/feelings/etc. (They’re’ actually book that speaks to these interesting aspects of the Trump phenomenon called”Dark Star Rising). But I digress…

I respect and admire Mike, Maria, and others sleuthing, information, analysis. However, I’ve decided not to put my time into untangling the knotted mass of info threads in order to make a coherent picture. Why? Because that is time I can spend working on “stuff” to make life better for me and my family. You see, in addition to revealing things, the chaos Trump caused (is causing) makes more energy available for creative endeavors.

So I’m coming at this from a strange angle… If you’d like to discuss further just DM me. I think @Matt might be a good resource to address your points in a more straightforward way. Hope this helps…and thanks for your thoughtful post.

[Karen]

Your first paragraph, Carrie, is intriguingly written and let me just say I don’t disagree. One wonderful up side to staying engaged in politics is that I have met quite a few people who, based on our shared beliefs, made an initial connection. That initial connection has grown into true friendships that transcend politics! These people truly have enriched my life.

ps: I don’t know how to DM you.

[Rick]

As far as Cabal. I don’t believe it’s like a football team where everyone knows who’s doing what and when. It’s seems more a pack of wild dogs. With combined intent and instinct to destroy. The politics game is to me like a crooked card came. They all have inside deals and cards up their sleeves (intell) each thinking they have the winning hand. The best analysis I heard was , no war no money . Hence DJT single-handedly led us off the Covid cliff ( democrats too? Cmon man). I do think if he had walked away and spilled the beans he may have been a hero , but ala Julian Assange. As far as exposing evil ,someone powerful needs to put it out there every so often so the Cabal can debunk it. Last thing they need is the whole world whispering in the shadows ala Quasi Moto .Love your thinking. Just my take.

[Carrie-in-Chicago]

Hey Ricktom! Excellent description! You have a way of being spot on in a delightful way!

I consider all of what you described, as well as the other wild games, pundits, secret societies, administrative bodies, industries, Etcetera, Etcetera, Etcetera… as the landscape upon which my consciousness, and that of the universe, is overlayed. The reality of those entities depends upon my participation… from buying movie tickets to wearing masks or taking the jab, all of it requires me to, through my actions, say yes.

Thus, by opting out I say now while preserving / building my consciousness firewall and put my energy toward productive matters. This is a drastic DRASTIC change in my behavior/approach to my life… I recommend giving it a try, but it’s a longish process that takes intention, time, and patience with one’s self. But once again I am yammering off-topic, so I’ll shut up now….

[Karen]

I like your perspective on the “game of politics”. Gives me food for thought. The only thing I will say regarding had Trump walked away and revealed all: 1. Who would have believed him? When you control the MSM you control the narrative. His revelations would never have reached the people who needed to hear it. & 2. Look how well that worked out for Assange! 🤣

[Rick]

Yes. Best he could have been was a martyr. Like Assange.lol

[nitemarehippygirl]

I will vote for Trump. Not saying I love him but I agree with you boymom2.

[Jerry]

Trump is now just serving as another attempt to distract the public who still see him as a victim. It’s a very weak attempt IMHO. He’s just another part of the clown show. If you put enough clowns in the circle all attempting to grab your attention then you won’t see the elephant that just got loose and is about to crush you like a grape. I too am so post politics and have been for a very long time. The issue is that if people don’t realize by now that NO ONE is coming to save them from a governmental stand point …..as Mike says…”They are fish food” Ask yourself and your friends just ONE question. When was the last time a POTUS did what they said they were going to do…..in a true realistic way. Not smoke and mirrors for a few months. The last guy that tried got his head blown off in Dallas 60 years ago. Grateful Girl always posts time stamps of each show. Just my 2 cents.

[Karen]

<div>I do not look at Trump as a victim and I MOST ASSUREDLY am not looking for him to “save” me. Even though I support Trump, I also take Mike’s advice and do focus on the well-being of my immediate family in all possible ways. This was from Trump’s WH and I will readily admit I have not fact-checked them. I can tell you, though, that life was certainly better for me and my entire family the four years Trump was in office. In fact, I was NOT a supporter of Trump in 2016 but voted for him simply because, “NEVER HILLARY”. It was his actions in office that turned me around. That’s just my personal experience, though.</div><div>
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[donna.b-2-11]

I also was a never Hilary voter ,yes things were good during his 4years , right up to the Lock down . Think I’m tired of choosing between the lesser of two evils at this point .

[Karen]

I COMPLETELY understand that point of view!!

[Zahara]

More like dumb and dumber 😫

[ScottyCrypto]

I can tell you my life was WAY better under The Donald! I work in tech and jobs were booming and since he left I have been laid off twice, most recently today. Our “unicorn” company terminated the entire crew today it was a big surprise (we had 400m in funding on our last round). I suspect interest rates have a lot to do with it (smart home builder) and I do recall Trump putting pressure on the FED (even though they are a private entity). I stay out of politics mostly since the SF Bay Area is all liberal and really a waste of my time. I will most certainly vote for Trump if my other choice is Obiden, Newsom or Kamalatoe. I also liked Trumps anti war stance, low regulations, drilling in the US to create jobs, bringing factory’s back, penalizing china with tariffs, and a strong border, among other things.

Cheers all

[Carrie-in-Chicago]

Hey There Scotty C! So good to hear from you. I agree with all you say and am sorry about your work/ company. It’s funny, I’ve decided that I will no longer be voting in any major elections… perhaps will to look into issues on the local level… just about ready to try to get engaged with the greater world community again…

[Paige]

I agree. The economy was better. But I think would have gotten this same bs economy by term 2 if Trump. Not voting for any of them.

[beans]

Precisely. Trump set up all the bowling pins with the covid nonsense. He created the distraction for the cartel to take the money out of the country.

[Jerry]

Forgive me boytomom2 if you took my statements personally. They were not directed towards you. I was speaking to those that still give him any credence and primarily the “Q tards” The expression 3 steps forward and 20 steps back would summarize his time in office. It was one of their failed attempts at division between ALL of us in this country. Every attempt at further division has failed miserably. This R versus D was a classic pump and dump scheme…ie. make the illusion that everything is unicorns and rainbows while in the back ground setting up the greatest Psy Opp in world history. I would never attack anyone on this platform in any way.Some of my DM’s and posts may have been mis-interpreted but that’s just human nature. It’s not my style nor why this platform was built. Everyone’s portfolio was kicking ass, everyone’s homes were at new highs, everyone appeared to have long term job security……on and on and on. By putting forth this illusion of security it caused many people to further leverage themselves beyond what was reality. Look no further than what is now taking place on an epic scale. “When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door”

[Karen]

No need to apologize! I LOVE all the comments!!!!!! It truly gives me something to think about & I just wanted you to know I may be only “half-blind”… 😀

[Jerry]

If you really want it summed up in 4 1/2 minutes watch George’s Carlin’s skit “It’s a big club….and you ain’t in it”

[Carrie-in-Chicago]

Yes, that routine and Carl’s conclusion, after deep analysis, that they are two sides of the same idiot (political parties) got me to it out… but boy it was a long road to it. In many ways the past few years has been the best education ever… for a great many of us at least. Love George Carlin… and so many others.

[Paige]

💯

[Op_Tweeter]

My understanding is the economy in 2019-2020 was on the verge of a collapse. Schemedemic stimulus checks started under Trump impacted the economy we are dealing with today. As soon as Trump was elected/installed, his cabinet was cartel insiders. Trump rally after rally were a huge grift. Still are. Trump was all in on the schemedemic. Who pays Q/Q influencers? Will there be a single conviction on this guy? I would not be shocked if there wasn’t. This and more is a cartel resume to me. I’m done with participating in POTUS election voting. Like CiC said, invest energy into non-political matters. I too like to keep current with politics so I can try to strategize what’s best for me and my family & friends based on the political agendas. Thanks all for the discussion.

[SpotTheDog]

Yup, no voting for me except in small town paper ballot elections. Go local or go home!

[ScottyCrypto]

Hard to say, I keep hearing how the debt and economy is going to crash but they print the money so I don’t really listen to that noise. I do think its interesting how Bush to Obama had a massive economic crisis and then Trump to Biden did also. I typically expect a black swan around these major events like elections, covid, etc. Look at covid, huge opportunity to buy stocks, S&P, BTC, etc. I did get one of my IRA’s out and into Bitcoin which is more than doubled since, and I do think the CBDC or some sort of control mechanism is coming and they just need a crisis to push it through.

I am not a Trumper and I subscribe to the left-right paradigm theory and that we are always being divided and conquered, just look at the latest Israel/Gaza issues. The media controls the narrative and the sheep follow blindly. I woke up after 9-11 so its hard to fool me, but, American politics is a real thing that effects our freedoms like the 1st, 2nd, 4th amendments and if the liberals stay in power they will keep chipping away at it so I honestly think not voting is worse than putting R all the way down and moving on. Yes elections are rigged and I gave up before Trump, so in some ways you could say Trump restored my faith in elections, if only for 4 years, lol.

On a personal note I am taking fiat OUT of the system, maybe I will put together a small group on here to explain how to get your USD out of the system.

[lucky-c]

Interesting perspective you have. It’s hard not to notice the good things that Trump did for regular people as you pointed out. It’s also very difficult to ignore how the mainstream mafia went after him so hard. Was it all a divide and conquer technique? Possibly. If it was, it worked well and explains why they continue to put him through the ringer. There is also the possibility that he had no idea what he was stepping into. In that case, they laid down the rules he would have to follow or pay the price. By that, I mean the real price, like your wife and kids being victims to something horrible. So they let him play the game and allowed him to fire a few low hanging fruit, and make a few rules that made the public believe he was the savior of all things politics. Either way, if he was to get in again, which I highly doubt, I would take advantage of the possibility of a good economy and use it to prepare for what will come next, because in the end, any fix is temporary, and like we are seeing now, the punishment we will take when it’s over will be severe.

[Rene]

Too jabbed up to comment….

[Jerry]

. 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Thank you! I needed that!

[ElChapo]

Trump is a grifter there is no doubt. He is currently sucking all the oxygen out of the room for the other “candidates.” Is that his role here? As to the election, Trump was filling football stadiums to overflowing, Biden couldn’t get 12 people in someone’s back yard, and Biden received the most votes ever of ANY Presidential candidate. More than Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Nixon…no fucking way. I don’t believe that for one fucking second.

[Samfatboy]

Looking back I see the Trump, Biden one two punch as a signal from the real power brokers that regardless of who you vote for, the system runs itself.

I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, but didn’t vote for Hillary either. I was impressed with what he did during his first 18 months. I liked a lot of what he talked about. He appeared as the bull in the china shop, shaking things up in DC. By year 3, between injunctions, Investigations, impeachments and battles with the Supreme Court, the 4800 plus Executive Branch Agencies proved that he controlled the long term direction of law in our country, not any elected official.

With the election of Biden, the real power brokers shoved their thumbs in our eyes by proving they could put a cardboard cut-out in the office, and the system will still continue on its merry way.

It’s all a combination of Jones Plantation, Kabuki Theater, and WWE to give us the impression that we actually have, through our vote, a way to control our government. All the while a select few leach every last ounce of wealth they can extract regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans, or Democrats pretending to be Republicans are in office.

Bills are not written by folks we elect, and the money allocated and spent is now being laundered at upper double digit percentages, and the voting public has had no impact on the progression of debt over the past century.

I would not be surprised to see voter apathy in 2024 as more people begin to see the clown show for what it is. Then the power brokers will know that the stage is set for the next step in the Great Reset.