Just some thoughts

  • Posted by Karen on November 11, 2023 at 3:00 pm

    Re Friday’s pocast: Rockefeller was the architect of big pharma and the medical industrial complex. Not sure if the trade-off of investing in his “community” was worth the continued pain and suffering he has inflicted on millions more people than the community he “invested” in. Quite honestly, I’d prefer these billionaires not do anything to “help” us (Bill Gates, i.e.). Also, Trump’s rally was a little more than a “gathering”, and most certainly more than 800 people. I would bet ANY of the nominees (Republican, Democrat and Independent) would give their right arm to have a “gathering” like this. Do you bank on people not fact-checking?

    WaywardSon replied 1 year, 6 months ago 13 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Mike

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    November 11, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    I Understand your premise but your timeline is off. Rockefeller didn’t set out to do anything hardcore medical while he was making his money in oil. Also I wouldn’t trust any billionaire, whether it’s him or … The stark difference between those billionaires and these billionaires is that these billionaires Don’t contribute anything to the community. They make and then take. That was my point.

    • Rick

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      November 12, 2023 at 6:43 am

      Love this topic. Those bank , steel ,railroad , textile , industry guys , although truly having developed things widely used even today ,did it by establishing patent law , materials procurement exclusivity , and regulations ensuring no one could ever do it themselves , or get a piece of the pie. These tactics can only be implemented though a Government who has a monopoly on use of force ( military).

      • Jun

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        November 13, 2023 at 7:38 am

        The neo Nouveau riche find Industrial development so passé:

        “Just have our IT minions work OT and completely destroy the competition, all of it. Then control whatever’s left. Easy peasy.”

        LOL

    • WaywardSon

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      November 13, 2023 at 9:23 pm

      Was not Rockefeller’s other “contribution” to community his penchant for silently ushering in Communism into the American education system and higher education? Let’s not forget about all this industrialist billionaire philanthropy had the agenda of changing minds, minds that now dominate all 3 branches, journalism and education.

  • Carrie-in-Chicago

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    November 11, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    Hey Mike- I thought the point you made Re: Rockefeller, and other billionaires, millionaires and/or people of significant wealth in times past was spot on and important… indeed investment back into the community was a matter of pride/concern… even on a smaller scale in towns and small cities near where I grew up. The people you mentioned cannot create anything… soulless husks that contribute nothing of real value.

  • Op_Tweeter

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    November 11, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    Indeed CiC re: billionaires, millionaires are soulless husks that contribute nothing of real value. Even at a smaller scale with corruption running rampant in this country, my feeling is whoever is looking to invest into the community due to their concern, prove my speculation wrong and contribute authentic passionate value for the betterment of the community and not for themself.

  • GogglesPaesano

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    November 11, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    The Rockefeller family and all the rest of the oligarchs don’t do anything for the community. These “investments” in the communities are covers to launder money, set up their new business ventures and fake money control system while they sell themselves as philanthropists. They don’t give a shit about ANYONE and are ruthless, evil, murderers. Nothing has changed. They are the slave owners that own all the plantations, resources, and it can never stop ad long as the fake money system exists. If any “country” or group tries to stop it, they just call on the rest of their military puppets to murder them with wars.

    • SpotTheDog

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      November 11, 2023 at 9:18 pm

      EXACTLY! ALL THOSE ELITE FUCKERS ARE MURDERERS!

    • Karen

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      November 12, 2023 at 8:51 am

      That’s exactly what I meant but you said it much more succinctly!!!!

  • Taxman

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    November 11, 2023 at 9:26 pm

    I agree with you both however, I think the point Mike was making was that at least they use the American infrastructure projects as the mechanism to lotta their money so that some of that by default went into the American system to benefit. Definitely not the main focus of the project, to launder, but nonetheless had some positive externalities. Now these motherfuckers just grift with projects outside the stairs, so if there isn’t any local positive externalities at all, just a negative.

  • Taxman

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    November 11, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    *states

  • GogglesPaesano

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    November 12, 2023 at 10:35 am

    They only supported the infrastructure because THEY needed it to build their businesses with the industrial revolution and the corporate partnership with the fake money system controlled governments. They built museums to push their lies and scams about evolution and the dinosaur nonsense along with the space and spinning ball garbage. They are self serving power hungry thieves that market themselves as some “save the world” with vaccines and medical care. Who cares if the Africans have clean water and food to survive on their own? Things were better decades ago because they had not yet completed their total government takeover. Now, they have to cull the herd because they can’t enjoy the fruits of their crimes.

    • Karen

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      November 12, 2023 at 11:08 am

      AMEN!!!!!! I knew someone who backpacked through Africa some years back. He said in the small villages he visited, they actually hated the people who came to try and make things “better” for them. They were happy with their way of life just as it was. Did any of these “do-gooders” ever stop to ask them if they wanted their help? Of course not, because that was not why they were there. They used the cover of “improving” their communities to further their real agenda which was to use these poor, unwitting people as experiments in some evil agenda- same as Rockefeller and all the other billionaire “philanthropists”…

  • GogglesPaesano

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    November 12, 2023 at 10:38 am

    And the reason they’re letting the infrastructure crumble is because they are stealing it all back to build their new prison systems.

  • _Fastestinthewest_

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    November 12, 2023 at 1:34 pm

    I knew a former Christian missionary coming back from Africa who became an anthropology professor at Georgia Southern. Harris knew anthropologist Dr. Louis Leakey. Harris had been affiliated with Mercer University in Macon, Georgia. Dr. Harris Mobley talked about the missionaries living like aristocrats with servants and living high on the hill. He was disgusted with missionaries. He eventually gave up missionary work and his religion.


    Harris Mobley, a Mercer alumnus encouraged a black named Oni to apply during the sixties to Mercer and other universities in the U.S. while in Africa. Although Oni’s qualifications exceeded the requirements for most of the colleges, he received letters of denial. Mercer University was the only school to not immediately reject Oni. Had it not been for the efforts of the Mercer President Rufus Harris, his application never would have gotten a second glance. Harris assigned a special committee to deliberate Oni‘s acceptance and the general integration of Mercer.

  • Ian

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    November 12, 2023 at 5:05 pm

    I can see a good possibility that there have been, and probably are still some, self-made millionaires who have seen what life is like in the real world, and would be inclined to help those less fortunate than themselves. Perhaps Henry Ford, who came from a farming background? I don’t know.

    Anyway, there was a time – but now with the millionaire’s and billionaire’s of today, who have largely grown up ignorant and apathetic to the struggles of the poor and arrogantly believe themselves to be better: of superior lineage, and even consider themselves to more intelligent than those of the “have not” population (now thinking John Kerry, Al Gore, etc) those who look down. The strangeness of these characters, these propagators of myth (climate change etc) with their ballooned sense of entitlement, they are nothing more than a nagging fact that the world must resolve (one way or another) if common sense is to be upheld.

    • LesTyranny

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      November 12, 2023 at 5:09 pm

      The ones who inherit it, and don’t earn it themselves are usually the worst of all.

  • Rick

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    November 13, 2023 at 8:06 am

    Lol. Certainly accurate.

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