There “Might” Be Something Here….

  • There “Might” Be Something Here….

    Posted by Dana Acker on October 15, 2024 at 9:40 pm

    Hey Taverneers, I’m hesitant to post news from the Hurricane Helene mess in Western NC and East Tennessee from internet sources. There are both legitimate and crazy people saying all kinds of things so it’s hard to trust what you hear. The fellow in this video, I used to listen to before I ran into Mike Moore/Thomas Paine back in early 2020. He goes by “Bear” and is the pastor and one of the leaders of a group of like minded Christian/survivalist/homesteader/prepper communities in rural Oklahoma. His group is ministry oriented and has legitimate ministries who do disaster relief, and provide rescue, protection, legal, medical and psychological counseling services for trafficked and abused people. So far, in all these years, I’ve seen them put their money where their mouth is, while remaining human rather than holier than thou. They are not crazies, and he is not David Koresh. They are well armed, hold strong Jewish tinged Christian beliefs, yet appreciate fine Bourbon and a good cigar. He mentions Glen Beck, but in the context of talking with people who are actually on the ground in the Helene affected areas, and like him or not, Beck has been there regardless of what his motives for doing so might be. You can listen to it all, but he (Bear) recommends starting at time stamp: 15:24 minutes in. That is where he begins speaking on “anomalies” of the storm and its aftermath. Take it or leave it, and let the buyer beware. As for me, I’m not trying to make internet conspiracy dogma here. Unless I was actually participating in the rescue and recovery, I’d trust Bear over folks like Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, or Stew Peters…or Glen Beck. Bear also mentions a YouTuber who goes by “Wrangle Star,” whose prepper videos I find truthful, informative and helpful. If Bear wasn’t telling the truth, Wrangle Star would call him out. But if what Bear says is correct from 15:24 minutes in, then this is truly disturbing. Make of it what you will, and do your own homework before propagating it. I’m not saying this is gospel, but it’s worthy of consideration from a source I trust more than most. https://www.youtube.com/live/FHJGuPC6bgM?si=1zcJ2c4_9e-CwmVF

    donna.b-2-11 replied 8 months, 1 week ago 8 Members · 35 Replies
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  • Kimberly.EA

    Member
    October 15, 2024 at 9:45 pm

    Yup – Bear – President of Grind Stone Ministries! That’s the charity I keep posting here….maybe people will pay attention to them now. https://grindstoneministries.com/

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 15, 2024 at 9:54 pm

      Thank you Kimberly! Well said. Initially I mentioned Samaritan’s Purse as a worthwhile ministry to which to give, especially in this particular crisis. Grind Stone Ministries and Kaleb’s House are equally doing a very good work, and anything you could donate to them would be money well given.

  • Dana Acker

    Organizer
    October 15, 2024 at 9:49 pm

    I don’t know how it happened, but clicking on the Bear video link above, actually begins the video at where Bear says it should begin—with the anomalies. If you look it up and watch it on YouTube, you can start at the beginning if you would like. By the way, “Wranglestar” might be one word instead of two. Looking him up either way should get you to his YouTube channel. Bear Independent has a YouTube channel as well.

  • WRR

    Member
    October 15, 2024 at 10:07 pm

    Hey Dana. Thanks for this post. I have saved the link but have not started watching / listening to it yet. The link you sent was probably copied from somewhere where someone added the start time to the link. Below is a link that explains a few different ways to add this time start feature to YouTube links.

    Cheers!

    WRR

    How to Share a YouTube Video at a Specific Start Time

    https://www.lifewire.com/youtube-link-to-specific-time-3486675

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 15, 2024 at 10:13 pm

      Thank you, WRR, you bailed me out. But I must confess it was most likely my fault, and I’m about as sophisticated as a dog bone when it comes to technology, so I probably just screwed up. But it’s good info you posted, and now I can’t plead ignorance?😉

  • StopKiryasJoels

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 9:47 am

    Thank you posting this Danah! I’ve heard 2nd hand from a cadaver dog guy that it is very bad in terms of loss of life. I’ll pm you there’s a new wrinkle in the plan headed home.

  • Dana Acker

    Organizer
    October 16, 2024 at 12:01 pm

    Hey, Grind Stone Ministries and “Bear” may be new to some of you, and you rightfully might be skeptical, given their (not to me) unorthodox approach to things. I found this video titled “The Bare Naked Truth About Grind Stone Ministries.” The video was made a couple of years ago right after the tornado that wrecked Mayfield, KY. It’s a good assessment of Grind Stone and Bear, for any who might want to see what they’re and he is all about. I’m Dana Acker, and I approve of this message. https://youtu.be/GQCUqincpBg?si=j3DZZD7pfbsmxD5J

  • Kimberly.EA

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    OMG!!! I just learned through Coach Dave that Grind Stone is PULLING OUT OF THE MOUNTAINS due to DEADLY RESIDUE IN THE SOIL from the manipulated clouds of Hurricane Helene. They are NO LONGER sending people up into the mountains to do rescues, house reclamation, or clean-ups because IT’S NOT SAFE!!! They are ONLY continuing distribution of supplies. THIS IS INFO DIRECTLY FROM COACH’S CONTACT AT GRIND STONE. Dear God…..we truly need to be fervently praying for all the victims – now affected by this PURE EVIL ‘twist’ in the situation!! 🙏 My heart is breaking for the people….as if losing “everything” wasn’t already enough…. 😭

  • Kimberly.EA

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 2:42 pm

    OK – I just spoke to Coach. He has the video that Bear did about the land contamination and is sending it to me. I will post as soon as I get it.

  • Kimberly.EA

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    Here it is. https://rumble.com/v5iwfd0-whats-really-happening-in-nc-land-grab.html

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 16, 2024 at 8:44 pm

      I think this the same video as I first posted, just on Rumble instead of YouTube. That they are pulling personnel out, is sad, but at the same time Bear is responsible for the safety of his crew, and to their families, who are looking to him to keep them safe.

      • Dana Acker

        Organizer
        October 16, 2024 at 9:11 pm

        The two videos by Bear are dated same day.

        • Kimberly.EA

          Member
          October 16, 2024 at 11:36 pm

          You’re right!! I thought I had clicked on a “Bear” video and it was different…..but not – in this thread….it clearly was a different one that I clicked on. I surely didn’t mean to “override” you!! This just so pissed me off – right up there with the J6 folks still sitting in prison…..

          • Dana Acker

            Organizer
            October 17, 2024 at 12:26 pm

            No worries, Kimberly. There was no override. We’re all trying to get the word out, and, it wouldn’t hurt people to watch that video twice. I appreciate your participation on the GDT platform. It’s pertinent, relevant, and most welcome!

  • Postman

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 4:10 pm

    Your post about land grabbing got me to thinking about other forms of land grabs. One of the biggest is the constant encroachment of governmental units buying up land for “public” use. So I did a search for my state of Michigan and it turned up that the Federal Government owns 10% of land in the state and the State Government owns 28%. The majority of that is in the Upper Peninsula, but it’s still shocking that the government owns over a third of the property. I know it’s even worse in some western states

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 16, 2024 at 9:48 pm

      Ask a Native American about Government land grabs. They know a thing or two about it. Poisonous mud in NC and Tenn isn’t much different than small pox infected blankets given to Native Peoples to “keep them warm.”

      • Dana Acker

        Organizer
        October 16, 2024 at 9:49 pm

        “Hello, I’m from the Government, and I’m here to help.”

  • Kimberly.EA

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 4:59 pm

    Wow – Postman! I suspect that most states are at least that – if not more. But the ‘land grab’ in the title is just the ‘end result’ of what Bear speaks about in this video!!

    EVERYBODY needs to find the time to watch/listen to this video!! He literally proclaims that he is NOT suicidal – if that gives you an idea of the gravity of what he goes on to disclose!! The PURE EVIL is beyond comprehension. @mike : this is like a real-time Hot Wire.

  • UncleFungi

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    Thanks for sharing that video it was good to hear humint !!

  • Paulie

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 7:33 pm

    Here’s an interview with JJS of AmRRon :
    https://radiofreeredoubt.podbean.com/e/grindstone-amrron-deployment-tn-z-net-breakout-09-oct-24/

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 16, 2024 at 10:00 pm

      Good post, Paulie. Somewhere back in the Green Dragon Tavern discussion archives, I believe I addressed the subject of communications. People stockpile weapons, ammo, food, drink, and medicine, etc., getting prepped for the big day or catastrophe, but no one thinks about communication. If the SHTF for real, and the internet went (or was taken) down, all of us in the Paine Universe would be cut off from one another. We need to think about (as affordable as possible) getting several of us around the country to get into HAM radios, and begin a communication network. Imagine if the net went down, and several of us could be talking to each other right away. I know movies aren’t war, and war isn’t movies, but in every war film I’ve ever seen when the radio gets hit, or the radioman, it ruins everybody’s day.

  • Dana Acker

    Organizer
    October 16, 2024 at 9:10 pm

    In 1998 I was on the first civilian aircraft that was allowed to land in San Pedro Sula, Honduras after Hurricane Mitch. Mitch entered the north of Honduras as a Cat-5 hurricane, travelled through the country and went into Nicaragua. There it turned around and went north back through Honduras, still a Cat-5 hurricane. It crossed the Gulf and hit Florida as a Cat-3 hurricane. Honduras was completely wrecked. We had 3 factories with about 1200 people in each. I did not meet a single soul who did not have at least one family member missing. People were living on their rooftops because the mud was 3 feet deep in the streets and in their houses. Graveyards opened and washed away. There were dead people and animals buried and protruding out of the mud, along with the corpses of the previously dead. Everybody was sick with some kind of bacterial or fungal disease. The US Army Corps of Engineers was there (Heads up: most people don’t know we moved the entire Southern Command of the US Army from Panama to Honduras, after we lost the Canal to China). Yes, China now runs the Canal and has a military presence in Central America. But back to my point; with that kind of devastation, and the adding to the mix, industrial waste (dangerous chemicals), raw sewage of mass proportions, dead and decaying bodies, and any other dangerous or carcinogenic toxins, you are basically living in a toxic waste dump. When I got home a couple of weeks later, I was sick with an unspecified illness that doctors thought came from decaying farm animals in the mud. Now given the same kind of stuff, not to mention the possibility of there being nuclear fuel/waste in the mud, if I was a ground commander there, I wouldn’t jeopardize their health either. I cannot fault Bear’s decision to get his people out, as painful as that is.

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 16, 2024 at 9:38 pm

      The blood is on the Biden-Harris administration’s hands. Whether this was weather manipulation or just a freak storm in the wrong place, still, the US Government response or lack thereof, is repugnant. In a perfect world, the entire weight of the US Army Corps of Engineers and the US Navy Seabees and their domestic communications and medical personnel should have been mobilized and on site before the first civilian helpers left their homes. Anybody here mind their tax dollars going to support the military effort if we had the leadership determined to massively respond? Where’s General Patton when you need him? The Corps of Engineers in Honduras had that recovery underway immediately.

      • Dana Acker

        Organizer
        October 16, 2024 at 9:40 pm

        FEMA…Fire ‘EM All!

      • donna.b-2-11

        Member
        October 17, 2024 at 7:07 pm

        Right there with you , total pissed off about this whole freaking mess .

  • Paulie

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 10:59 pm

    Thanks, Dana.
    I’ve looked in to getting a ham radio, but his latest recommendations are from 2014.
    I need to research in earnest and stop procrastinating.
    Especially after watching Dustin’s latest tweet:
    https://x.com/hackableanimal/status/1846575694874112319

    • Kimberly.EA

      Member
      October 16, 2024 at 11:53 pm

      I think Dustin has got it nailed. Just think: they won’t even have to commit election fraud – just let the people vote. AND they’ll get their violence in the streets when the lefties react to it. Perfect.

  • StopKiryasJoels

    Member
    October 16, 2024 at 11:18 pm

    There’s some cool satellite walkie talkie things for groups an inside baseball guy has strongly been suggesting we get. I’ll add to this post here tommorow.

    • Dana Acker

      Organizer
      October 16, 2024 at 11:32 pm

      Yes, please do! Thanks. You might be onto something there.

    • Kimberly.EA

      Member
      October 16, 2024 at 11:54 pm

      I’ll be watching for it! This platform is my ‘lifeline’!!

    • Paulie

      Member
      October 17, 2024 at 1:20 am

      Yes, thank you! That would be great.

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